Today I got another call from the newspaper -- hello? They want to offer Robert a special offer -- reduced subscription price..... how many times does a person have to tell a company that someone is deceased???? grrrrr
I've read your posts, and the comments others have left regarding them. I have but one question about the message left from "Chris".... although I can't explain how it 'arrived' on your message machine, the one thing I keep coming back to is why are you allowing this to upset, bother &/or freak you out? If it's from your friend, who yes I understand has passed away, there is really nothing to be upset, bothered, freaked out, or worried about. There are some things that cannot immediately be explained. Is it odd? Yes! Is it unusual? Of course! Can you explain it? No! So, let it be what it is and 'water off a ducks back' comes to mind. One thing that no one is saying is what you need to be concerned about. I'm sure there are people who connect you and she to one another as friends, best friends, pals, etc. Perhaps you were mentioned in the obituary? (I don't know, just trying to find a common denominator). So... if this caller, is NOT your friend, but someone who is familiar with you and perhaps even someone who even SORT OF knows what you're going thru emotionally regarding losing both Bob and Chris - you should be asking yourself if this person could be someone who has access to your home. A caretaker of some sort, computer tech, pet sitter, lawn maintenance, pool cleaner, builder, maybe even a friend who is quite obviously not such a great friend after all, but ANYONE who may have had access to your home. Anyone that would have had an opportunity to just 'leave a message' without calling in on your phone line. They may have done this to simply mess with you. I don't find it remotely amusing, I think it's a cruel thing to do and it's an invasion of privacy, not to mention unlawful entry into your home without your knowledge or consent (possibly). I don't get details in your post about what time you and Kona were in the pool, or how long you were in the pool, nor if you had looked at the message machine earlier prior to using the pool and taking Kona with you - but you should think about those things in piecing this together. I'm not trying to further freak you out, but this is just the elephant in the room everyone is tiptoeing around..... and something you seriously need to consider. Did you hear anything while you were in the pool that you dismissed for some reason? Did Kona bark or alert to something you thought was odd while at the pool, but dismissed that as well? Ask yourself who has access to your home? Who has keys? Who lives close enough to you that they could come over unnoticed? If there is someone, I wouldn't confront them. Perhaps a call to the police is warranted and let them see and hear the message and info about the time and date of incoming calls. Maybe consider changing some locks or having someone home with you during times when service people are present, with the understanding that this is what happened and you're 'ruling people out'. Although the things I"ve mentioned are possibilities, given the fact that no call came in at that time, I guess I wouldn't be over concerned unless the calls continue. Perhaps the calls can be 'traced' by the phone company or police dept, even though they aren't showing up on your caller id. Techies could use 'hacks' so that their number doesn't show up on your device. Electronics! Please don't continue heaping coals on your head over something you have no answer for or control over, the only person suffering because of that action ... is YOU. I hope this has been helpful rather than causing added stress over the situation. But unless it continues, I wouldn't worry about it. Just a thought...... hugz
One more comment about the newspaper situation. I'm not sure why after all this time you still think it's gonna 'go away'. It will not, I assure you. What you need to do is phone the newspaper, and insist on speaking with someone in management, or someone who is an owner, or possibly a business manager .... explain what's been going on, giving the same if not more details than you've provided in your blog and ask them to stop contacting "Bob" about subscription service. Because it came in his name whilst he was alive, it's in their 'records' that he was a subscriber, they need to take action to remove his name from the database. Until they do that, the calls will continue. The only other solution is to have your lawyer write a letter to them stating their continued contacts are causing undue stress and are becoming harassing in nature, and unless they cease and desist there will be legal action brought against them. That would probably be the best solution, but you'll also want to be able to provide dates/times/names of contacts you've made to try and rectify the situation - thus the phone call to the newspaper. You can't pussyfoot around some of these people, they just aren't always that bright. No need to be nice all of the time... sometimes you have to strong arm things..... be fearless woman.... lol!! I wish you the best... God Bless ya!!! hugz
I like Vin's idea of threatening them with legal action - I think you can do it without getting a lawyer involved.
Alternatively, call the Better Business Bureau to file a complaint. From what I know, they don't accept the complaint until you've spoken to a specific head honcho at the company - and if that person doesn't fix it, they'll record the complaint; If you call BBB, at least you'll know who the head honcho contact is, and maybe that person WILL fix it.
Oh, Vindi, you freaked me out, at first --- but I do know this: call came in a 2:55 p.m. while I was in pool with Kona. Front door was locked. Back door can see from the pool. If anyone entered I would've noticed, and if not, Kona certainly would've noticed, and barked, she is a good watch dog. Nothing like that happened. Of course, wouldn't have noticed a ghost! ha... and then, unfortunately, while I was deleted some messages accidentally deleted the one from Chris/Arliine... shoot -- anyway, I do not believe there was any intruder in our house -- still a mystery
Diane, Vindi is right to a point. You are being victimized and targeted. I don't think they have been in your home though. Rhet might have gained information by checking your mailbox or Bab's obit. There are some sick people out there.
As far as the newspaper goes...Forget the telephone. I would pay an in person visit to the paper. They have Bob on a list of former subscribers so whenever they want new/renewals, they'll call. If by asking in person to remove Bob from this list and it continues, "threaten" legal action. That's what I had to do after my beloved died. It stopped.
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Diane,
I've read your posts, and the comments others have left regarding them. I have but one question about the message left from "Chris".... although I can't explain how it 'arrived' on your message machine, the one thing I keep coming back to is why are you allowing this to upset, bother &/or freak you out? If it's from your friend, who yes I understand has passed away, there is really nothing to be upset, bothered, freaked out, or worried about. There are some things that cannot immediately be explained. Is it odd? Yes! Is it unusual? Of course! Can you explain it? No! So, let it be what it is and 'water off a ducks back' comes to mind. One thing that no one is saying is what you need to be concerned about. I'm sure there are people who connect you and she to one another as friends, best friends, pals, etc. Perhaps you were mentioned in the obituary? (I don't know, just trying to find a common denominator). So... if this caller, is NOT your friend, but someone who is familiar with you and perhaps even someone who even SORT OF knows what you're going thru emotionally regarding losing both Bob and Chris - you should be asking yourself if this person could be someone who has access to your home. A caretaker of some sort, computer tech, pet sitter, lawn maintenance, pool cleaner, builder, maybe even a friend who is quite obviously not such a great friend after all, but ANYONE who may have had access to your home. Anyone that would have had an opportunity to just 'leave a message' without calling in on your phone line. They may have done this to simply mess with you. I don't find it remotely amusing, I think it's a cruel thing to do and it's an invasion of privacy, not to mention unlawful entry into your home without your knowledge or consent (possibly). I don't get details in your post about what time you and Kona were in the pool, or how long you were in the pool, nor if you had looked at the message machine earlier prior to using the pool and taking Kona with you - but you should think about those things in piecing this together. I'm not trying to further freak you out, but this is just the elephant in the room everyone is tiptoeing around..... and something you seriously need to consider. Did you hear anything while you were in the pool that you dismissed for some reason? Did Kona bark or alert to something you thought was odd while at the pool, but dismissed that as well? Ask yourself who has access to your home? Who has keys? Who lives close enough to you that they could come over unnoticed? If there is someone, I wouldn't confront them. Perhaps a call to the police is warranted and let them see and hear the message and info about the time and date of incoming calls. Maybe consider changing some locks or having someone home with you during times when service people are present, with the understanding that this is what happened and you're 'ruling people out'. Although the things I"ve mentioned are possibilities, given the fact that no call came in at that time, I guess I wouldn't be over concerned unless the calls continue. Perhaps the calls can be 'traced' by the phone company or police dept, even though they aren't showing up on your caller id. Techies could use 'hacks' so that their number doesn't show up on your device. Electronics! Please don't continue heaping coals on your head over something you have no answer for or control over, the only person suffering because of that action ... is YOU. I hope this has been helpful rather than causing added stress over the situation. But unless it continues, I wouldn't worry about it. Just a thought...... hugz
One more comment about the newspaper situation. I'm not sure why after all this time you still think it's gonna 'go away'. It will not, I assure you. What you need to do is phone the newspaper, and insist on speaking with someone in management, or someone who is an owner, or possibly a business manager .... explain what's been going on, giving the same if not more details than you've provided in your blog and ask them to stop contacting "Bob" about subscription service. Because it came in his name whilst he was alive, it's in their 'records' that he was a subscriber, they need to take action to remove his name from the database. Until they do that, the calls will continue. The only other solution is to have your lawyer write a letter to them stating their continued contacts are causing undue stress and are becoming harassing in nature, and unless they cease and desist there will be legal action brought against them. That would probably be the best solution, but you'll also want to be able to provide dates/times/names of contacts you've made to try and rectify the situation - thus the phone call to the newspaper. You can't pussyfoot around some of these people, they just aren't always that bright. No need to be nice all of the time... sometimes you have to strong arm things..... be fearless woman.... lol!! I wish you the best... God Bless ya!!! hugz
I would treat them like a child. "Can you repeat back what I said? So I know you understand me. Good luck with that. Rhonda
More than you've done, apparently.
I like Vin's idea of threatening them with legal action - I think you can do it without getting a lawyer involved.
Alternatively, call the Better Business Bureau to file a complaint. From what I know, they don't accept the complaint until you've spoken to a specific head honcho at the company - and if that person doesn't fix it, they'll record the complaint; If you call BBB, at least you'll know who the head honcho contact is, and maybe that person WILL fix it.
Oh, Vindi, you freaked me out, at first --- but I do know this: call came in a 2:55 p.m. while I was in pool with Kona. Front door was locked. Back door can see from the pool. If anyone entered I would've noticed, and if not, Kona certainly would've noticed, and barked, she is a good watch dog. Nothing like that happened. Of course, wouldn't have noticed a ghost! ha... and then, unfortunately, while I was deleted some messages accidentally deleted the one from Chris/Arliine... shoot -- anyway, I do not believe there was any intruder in our house -- still a mystery
Diane, Vindi is right to a point. You are being victimized and targeted. I don't think they have been in your home though. Rhet might have gained information by checking your mailbox or Bab's obit. There are some sick people out there.
As far as the newspaper goes...Forget the telephone. I would pay an in person visit to the paper. They have Bob on a list of former subscribers so whenever they want new/renewals, they'll call. If by asking in person to remove Bob from this list and it continues, "threaten" legal action. That's what I had to do after my beloved died. It stopped.
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